Oscars 2012 Update: BFCA Nominations

The Critics’ Choice Awards nominations came out the other day, and were pretty much overshadowed by the SAG nominations and the Golden Globes. But actually, I think these are even more accurate in gauging the Oscars than all those other ones are. Since SAG is really only helpful in gauging the acting ones, and BAFTA is helpful in solidifying acting nominations and maybe guessing a surprise nominee here or there, and the Globes are somewhat helpful, but up to a certain point. They tend to miss films all the time. There’s always a big film or two that hit at the Oscars and miss the Globes entirely. These, though — well, we’ll get to them in a second.

The Broadcast Film Critics Association is a group of about 250 TV, radio and online critics. And, as I’m gonna point out in a second — not only are they really helpful in gauging what’s gonna get nominated for Oscars, but the stuff that isn’t nominated for Oscars that’s on their lists of nominees — it’s often stuff that most people think should have been nominated for Oscars. It’s incredible.

Mostly it comes down to them getting all the stuff that’s either in the conversation or universally regarded nominated. They manage to strike a fine line between all the “Oscar” stuff and the stuff most moviegoers would like as well. That’s really the key to their success. They’re not necessarily stuck up on all the “classy” shit. They legitimately go for good stuff.

For example, last year’s BFCA nominations for Best Picture were: The Artist (won), The Descendants, Drive, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, The Help, Hugo, Midnight in Paris, Moneyball, The Tree of Life, and War Horse. That’s all nine Best Picture nominees, and Drive, which we all loved and would love to have seen nominated as well. Most people figure it was #10/#11 for Best Picture with The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. 2010, they got 9 out of the 10 Best Picture nominees, and the one change was that they put on The Town instead of The Kids Are All Right, which makes me happy, since I didn’t like The Kids Are All Right. (P.S. The Social Network won.) 2009, they hit 9 out of the 10, having Invictus on instead of District 9. (Hurt Locker won.) 2008, they had all five Best Picture nominees, plus Changeling, Dark Knight, Doubt, Wall-E and The Wrestler. (Slumdog won.) So basically that tells me — they’re really good at getting the consensus films up there, though they do tend to skew more in line with some generic “nominees” instead of taking shots with stuff (Incvictus over District 9), but on the whole, they’re right there with all the films that would be in the Oscar conversation. Not only that — what wins is usually either the film that’s going to win, or the film most people think should win. Since 2000, they’ve only missed on Best Picture three times: Social Network in ’09, Brokeback Mountain in ’05, and Sideways in ’04. And all three of those were consensus crowd favorites going into Oscar night.

So that’s the stuff that makes them helpful, more so than the other awards, since they seem to be a large enough group to where they aren’t hindered by bias (or bribery) or whatever. You won’t see them nominate someone like Betty White for the sake of nominating her, or nominating someone because they want them to come to their party. Which is why I like them. Plus it helps that I usually agree with them, and, at worst, can understand their decisions.

I’ll go over each of the other categories as I talk about them. Let’s get into the nominees.

Best Picture
Argo
Beasts of the Southern Wild
Django Unchained
Les Miserables
Life of Pi
Lincoln
The Master
Moonrise Kingdom
Silver Linings Playbook
Zero Dark Thirty

I already talked about their history at guessing Best Picture, so really, all I have to say is — I can’t imagine them not being right again. I see about eight guarantees for your Best Picture list, assuming the sliding scale thing allows them to go that high. But — right now, I assume Argo, Django, Les Mis, Life of Pi, Lincoln, Silver Linings and Zero Dark Thirty are your locks, with Beasts of the Southern Wild and Moonrise Kingdom really, really strong possibilities to make it on. And The Master is actually most likely the film that would be left off, just because of the mixed reception to the film. But, as #10s go, this is definitely one that I most certainly would put in the question. I haven’t much thought about what a final list would be, but right now, I have to figure the BFCA is not only 80% of the way there, but they even have the alternates in case something doesn’t make it on.

Not gonna guess a winner, just because it’s too early and I haven’t seen the films.

Best Director
Ben Affleck, Argo
Kathryn Bigelow, Zero Dark Thirty
Tom Hooper, Les Miserables
Ang Lee, Life of Pi
David O. Russell, Silver Linings Playbook
Steven Spielberg, Lincoln

Best Director — they missed ’09, giving it to Fincher, missed ’04, giving it to Scorsese, and 2002, giving it to Spielberg for Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can (though, their other two nominees were Scorsese and Polanski, so they did kind of know). So they’re really good at guessing this, which makes sense, since it often goes hand-in-hand with Picture.

In terms of the nominees — last year, they missed Malick and Allen. 2010, they missed David O. Russell. 2009, they had all five. 2008, they missed Daldry, but had Nolan on instead. 2007, they missed Paul Thomas Anderson, Tony Gilory and Jason Reitman. Instead, they had Tim Burton for Sweeney Todd, Sean Penn for Into the Wild and Joe Wright for Atonement. Interesting. 2006, they had Bill Condon instead of Inarritu. 2005, they missed Bennett Miller. 2004, they had all five. So they’re usually right there. 2007 is kind of weird, but otherwise, usually they’re on top of it.

This year, though — they might not be. It’s early, though. I don’t know. The thing with this year is — your main contenders are: Affleck, Bigelow, Hooper, Lee, Russell, Spielberg, and Tarantino. Will they leave off Quentin in favor of Ben? Does Ben get on at all? It seems like your most likely list is Bigelow, Hooper, Lee, Russell and Spielberg. Personally, I’d leave off Spielberg like you did last year and put on Affleck or Quentin. And that’s without having even seen Django. So I’m really just talking out of my ass right now based on what would make me feel good about the category. I really don’t have any final opinions until I see everything. But, either way — I’m sure they’re gonna be at least 4 of 5 with this one. How can they not be?

Best Actor
Bradley Cooper, Silver Linings Playbook
Daniel Day-Lewis, Lincoln
John Hawkes, The Sessions
Hugh Jackman, Les Miserables
Joaquin Phoenix, The Master
Denzel Washington, Flight

Since 2000, they’ve only missed twice, and not since 2002. 2001, they picked Russell Crowe for A Beautiful Mind, which — that was the best performance there, and I’m not really sure what happened with that come Oscar night. Then 2002, they had a tie between Nicholson and Daniel Day-Lewis, and that was the year of the big Adrien Brody shocker. But since then, they haven’t missed on a Best Actor winner. Oh, except last year. Right. Almost forgot that. They had Clooney over Dujardin. They also tend to get the category right, too. Last year, they had six nominees — Clooney, Dujardin, and Pitt were in the final category. They missed Demian Bichir and Gary Oldman. Bichir got on from SAG and Oldman from BAFTA. Instead, they had Michael Fassbender, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Ryan Gosling. Leo was the generic Oscar nominee that just got on because, and Fassbender and Gosling were popular choices to put on. Fassbender, in my mind, should have been nominated. Gosling had one of those years where, while I couldn’t vote for him on my list, I couldn’t argue against him deserving to be there. But, to quickly run down — 2010, they missed Bardem, but did have on Gosling, who I felt should have been there instead. (They also nominated Duvall for Get Low, which was another performance in the conversation for a while.) 2009, they got all five. 2008, all five. 2007, four of five, missing on Tommy Lee Jones, who was a surprise come Oscar morning. 2006, all five (and DiCaprio twice!), 2005, all five, and 2004, they missed Eastwood (they had on Giamatti and Bardem instead). So, for the most part, when they do miss a performance, it’s because of a surprise come Oscar morning. But, sticking with them usually gets you a pretty good score in the category. What that means for this year…

Well, actually, I’m about 99% certain that your Best Actor category will be five of these six people. At this point, I assume that Cooper, Day-Lewis, Jackman and Denzel are locked. The real question is whether or not John Hawkes is gonna be the fifth spot over Joaquin Phoenix. At this point it seems like Hawkes is the safer bet, but I want to see what BAFTA does before I call the category locked. Joaquin’s not out of it yet. I won’t guess on a winner until closer to the day, since that’s a really serious proposition. Not like the Globes or anything. The winner here has probably upwards of an 80% chance to win the Oscar. But for now, I think this says a lot about the state of the Best Actor race.

Best Actress
Jessica Chastain, Zero Dark Thirty
Marion Cotillard, Rust and Bone
Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
Emmanuelle Riva, Amour
Quvenzhane Wallis, Beasts of the Southern Wild
Naomi Watts, The Impossible

Best Actress is actually the category where the BFCA is most inaccurate. Last year, they only had three of the five nominees: Viola, Meryl and Michelle Williams. They missed on Glenn Close and Rooney Mara. Mostly because Close’s performance only got on because of her stature and the nature of the performance (The Academy loves that shit). And Mara was kind of a surprise come Oscar morning. A pleasant one (for me, anyway), but still, kind of a surprise. Instead, the BFCA had on Elizabeth Olsen, which I’m sure a lot of people agree with, Tilda Swinton, which I totally agree with, and, my favorite — Charlize Theron, which I’m so fucking happy about. I think that performance was so underrated. They also gave it to Viola, which was actually how Oscar was looking up until the very end, with Meryl pulling it out. 2010, they had all five nominees and Natalie winning (they also nominated Noomi Rapace for Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, which might explain the Rooney Mara exclusion). 2009, they had four of five, missing Helen Mirren for The Last Station (because she really only got on because she’s Helen Mirren), having Emily Blunt for The Young Victoria and Saorise Ronan for The Lovely Bones instead. They also had a tie between Sandra and Meryl for the win, which… Jesus. They were right, but Jesus. 2008, they technically hit four out of five, but that’s because they had Kate winning Best SUPPORTING Actress for The Readerbecause that’s what she was in that movie. And since Kate wasn’t on the list, they gave it as a tie to Anne Hathaway (my vote), and Meryl (most people’s vote). My favorite thing about that year was that they nominated Kate Beckinsale for Nothing But the Truth, one of my top hidden gems of the 2000s. Big fan of that one. 2007, they hit four of five, missing Laura Linney for The Savages (because… meh. I feel like she got on because she’s Laura Linney more than anything. Not that it’s a bad thing. It’s just — I like knowing that the BFCA does usually tend to side with me on those questionable nominations, most of the time. It lets me know, “I’m glad someone else doesn’t think they were really worth nominating, even though it’s totally cool they were”). They gave it to Julie Christie instead of Marion Cotillard. (They also nominated Amy Adams for Enchanted, which — good for them. That’s another plus for them in my book.) 2006, they only had five nominations instead of six, and all five of them were the Oscar nominees. Mirren won, too. 2005, they hit all five and had Reese winning. 2004, they had all five and Hilary winning. 2003, they had Charlize winning. 2002, they missed, giving it to (ready?) Julianne Moore (who so should have won). 2001, they missed, giving it to Sissy Spacek. And 2000 they got right. So they do miss here, but they usually are on the right track, in terms of the nominees (though they are prone to mistakes).

This category — you have three certainties off the top, Chastain, Cotillard and Lawrence. I’d be shocked if any of them didn’t make it at this point. Naomi Watts is hitting a lot of major precursors, so that leads me to believe she has a big lock on spot #4. And spot #5, at this point, seems to me to be between Quvenzhane Wallis and Helen Mirren. All things considered, I’m rooting for Wallis all the way. She was charming as shit in that movie, even if I don’t really think the performance was nomination-worthy. But I’d rather go for her performance over Mirren’s, since Mirren’s really isn’t nomination-worthy. (Not that it’s bad, it’s just — she has nothing to do, and her subplot in the film actually makes the film worse. Who cares about her maybe sleeping with Danny Huston? I want more Hitchcock.) I also think Emmanuelle Riva has a real chance to sneak on here as the fifth nominee. The category is open enough to where this is a legitimate possibility. I want to see what BAFTA does. I’ll keep an eye on this one. (Honestly, though, between Wallis and Riva — I’ll take either of them for a fifth nominee. I’m totally cool with that.)

Best Supporting Actor
Alan Arkin, Argo
Javier Bardem, Skyfall
Robert De Niro, Silver Linings Playbook
Philip Seymour Hoffman, The Master
Tommy Lee Jones, Lincoln
Matthew McConaughey, Magic Mike

Before I get into the categories — they’ve guessed the winner here in all years since 2000 except 2006, 2005, 2004, 2001 and 2000. I disregard the first two, since I don’t think they had full categories for those. And for trivia purposes — they gave it to Joaquin Phoenix (for Gladiator and Quills) in 2000 and Ben Kingsley for Sexy Beast (fucking right!) in 2001. 2004, they tapped out on Sideways and gave that as many awards as they could. 2005, they went Giamatti (I guess because he didn’t get it in 2004. And also because he was the favorite until Oscar night, when Clooney’s total nominations propelled him to a win). And 2006, they had Eddie Murphy, who did seem like the winner up until his name wasn’t called. As for the categories — last year, they had 3/5 (missing Jonah Hill and Max von Sydow, putting on Albert Brooks, Patton Oswalt and Andy Serkis instead). 2010, they had 4/5, missing on John Hawkes (having Garfield and Sam Rockwell for Conviction instead). 2009, 4/5, missing Christopher Plummer (who was, in fact, a lead, in that movie), having Alfred Molina for An Education and Christian McKay for Me and Orson Welles (fucking right!) instead. 2008, they had 4/5, missing Michael Shannon. (They had Franco for Milk instead.) 2007, they nailed all five perfectly. 2006, they had on Nicholson instead of Wahlberg and missed Jackie Earle Haley (having Adam Beach for Flags of Our Fathers and Affleck for Hollywoodland instead). 2005, they had 4/5, missing William Hurt. (They had Terrence Howard for Crash — which, good call. He was great. Though I still love that Hurt performance — and Costner for The Upside of Anger. Really?) And 2004 — 4/5. They had the second Jamie Foxx nomination, but missed Alan Alda (because he was a surprise on Oscar morning). So they’re actually pretty good, here.

I suspect they’ll be pretty solid here, but am wondering what they’re gonna end up missing. Right now, I expect Arkin to end up being nominated, since… shit… he’s catching nominations everywhere. That shit usually follows through. Bardem is getting nominated everywhere, so I can see it happening (and am very excited for it). Not gonna win, but who cares, the nomination is fucking incredible on its own. Don’t let’s ask for the moon, we have the stars. De Niro seems like a lock based on the fact that AMPAS is old white men now, and veterans get on all the time. Jones is a lock, and Hoffman seems like a lock. McConaughey seems like he’s not gonna get past the BFCA nomination. This seems like the perfect reward for him. I don’t think he gets as far as Oscar at all. The wild cards here are Django performances. But I think that was the Globes being overeager more than anything. Maybe one slips on, but it’s kind of early to tell. For now, I expect them to be right there on this one as well. Also really curious to see who wins it.

Best Supporting Actress
Amy Adams, The Master
Judi Dench, Skyfall
Ann Dowd, Compliance
Sally Field, Lincoln
Anne Hathaway, Les Miserables
Helen Hunt, The Sessions

Oh, this one. I was so happy with them with this category last year. But first, let’s get the winners out of the way. Since 2000, they’ve missed 2008, 2007, 2005, 2004 an 2000. 2008 doesn’t count, since their Supporting Actress winner ended up winning Best Actress. So we’ll discount that. 2000, they gave it to Frances McDormand for Wonder Boys and Almost Famous. I still think it’s a shocker that Marcia Gay Harden won that year, so I don’t fault them for this one. 2004, they went all in on Sideways, so that makes sense. 2005, they had a tie between Amy Adams (yeah!) and Michelle Williams. That was actually a pretty close race, that one. And 2007, they went with Amy Ryan, which was also another one of those “too close to call” years. So they actually are pretty good here, except when the category ends up being a really tough one to call.

As for the nominees — last year, here was the category: Berenice Bejo, Jessica Chastain and Octavia Spencer, Melissa McCarthy, Carey Mulligan (for Shame) and Shailene Woodley. Something for everyone, and no Janet McTeer. But, 4/5. 2010, nailed all 5, and had Mila Kunis on as a sixth. 2009, 4/5, missing Maggie Gyllenhaal (notice a trend on the ones they miss?) and having on Julianne Moore for A Single Man and Samantha Morton for The Messenger (oooh… yeah) instead. 2008, 4/5, even with Kate in the category, missing Amy Adams. But they did have on Vera Farmiga for Nothing But the Truth instead. This is one of those things that makes me love them. It’s like when you’re friends with someone, and you share most of the same tastes, but then there are those little random things that you both like that makes you go, “This is why we’re friends. Shit like this.” That’s what this is to me. Anyway, 2007, they missed two, Ruby Dee (veteran) and Saorise Ronan (really?), having on Catherine Keener for Into the Wild and Vanessa Redgrave for Atonement instead. So swap one performance from a film for another and put a veteran on. I get that. 2006, 4/5, missing Abigail Breslin. 2005, they nailed all five and had Maria Bello on there as a bonus. And 2004, they just missed Sophie Okonedo. So — pretty damn good in terms of nominees.

This year, though, is a tough one. It seems like Amy Adams, Anne Hathaway, Helen Hunt and Sally Field are getting on. I’m not totally sold on Amy Adams, but it does make sense. (Though… her instead of Joaquin? Really?) I think Judi has an outside shot, but wouldn’t call it more than like a 20% chance of happening. Ann Dowd, however — really curious to see what happens there. I don’t think it’ll happen, but I wouldn’t rule it out. This category is fairly open. Also interesting to not see Nicole Kidman here. Gonna keep my eye on this one.

Best Young Actor/Actress
Elle Fanning, Ginger & Rosa
Kara Hayward, Moonrise Kingdom
Tom Holland, The Impossible
Logan Lerman, The Perks of Being a Wallflower
Suraj Sharma, Life of Pi
Quvenzhane Wallis, Beasts of the Southern Wild

No opinion on this one, really. Though — major respect to Kara Hayward, Tom Holland and Quvenzhane Wallis. Big fans of their work in those three films.

Best Acting Ensemble
Argo
The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel
Les Miserables
Lincoln
Moonrise Kingdom
Silver Linings Playbook

Last year it went to The Help. 2010, The Fighter. 2009, Basterds. 2008, Milk. 2007, Hairspray. 2006, Little Miss Sunshine. 2005, Crash. 2004, Sideways. 2003, Return of the King. 2002, Chicago. 2001, Gosford Park. So basically the winner of this is the winner of the SAG award. Or the film with the most acting nominations. Which means — Lincoln or Silver Linings PlaybookLes Mis being a third choice. Marigold Hotel is a potential spoiler, but I doubt it.

Best Original Screenplay
Quentin Tarantino, Django Unchained
John Gatins, Flight
Rian Johnson, Looper
Paul Thomas Anderson, The Master
Wes Anderson & Roman Coppola, Moonrise Kingdom
Mark Boal, Zero Dark Thirty

They hit last year and 2010. 2009, they gave it to Quentin and Mark Boal won. 2003, they missed, giving it to In America. 2002 went to Charlie Kaufman. 2001 went to Memento and 2000 they got right. The problem here is that the categories were combined between 2001 and 2008. So the winner was often one of the two Screenplay winners. But, since 2009, they’re right on top of it with the winners. I haven’t much considered how close they’re gonna be, so let’s just look at the category — it looks good. Johnson might not get on, but the other four look like good bets to make it. So that’s good.

Best Adapted Screenplay
Chris Terrio, Argo
Tony Kushner, Lincoln
David O. Russell, Silver Linings Playbook
David Magee, Life of Pi
Stephen Chbosky, The Perks of Being a Wallflower

What’s with this Wallflower stuff? I don’t get it. But whatever. The first four seem like locks. So we’ll stick with that.

Best Cinematography
Life of Pi
Lincoln
Les Miserables
The Master
Skyfall

Can we finally give Roger Deakins a fucking Oscar, please?

Best Art Direction
Anna Karenina
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
Les Miserables
Life of Pi
Lincoln

I don’t really have opinions on these tech categories. I’ll just use them when coming up with my nominations. I should do the work now and see how close they are, but I’m gonna be lazy and give myself more work later.

Best Editing
Argo
Les Miserables
Life of Pi
Lincoln
Zero Dark Thirty

Sure.

Best Costume Design
Anna Karenina
Cloud Atlas
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
Les Miserables
Lincoln

Nice to see Cloud Atlas getting on here. I liked that movie.

Best Makeup
Cloud Atlas
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
Les Miserables
Lincoln

Definitely.

Best Visual Effects
The Avengers
Cloud Atlas
The Dark Knight Rises
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
Life of Pi

Okay.

Best Animated Feature
Brave
Frankenweenie
Madagascar 3
ParaNorman
Rise of the Guardians
Wreck-It Ralph

What?! No Oogieloves?

Best Action Movie
The Avengers
The Dark Knight Rises
Looper
Skyfall

They have categories for everything, don’t they?

Best Actor in an Action Movie
Christian Bale, The Dark Knight Rises
Daniel Craig, Skyfall
Robert Downey Jr., The Avengers
Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Looper
Jake Gyllenhaal, End of Watch

Well now you’re just stretching it out because you can. I want to know who wins this just to see if this is the portion of the show where it is just a popularity contest. This should either be Craig or Levitt, yet I feel like they’ll give it to Downey.

Best Actress in an Action Movie
Emily Blunt, Looper
Gina Carano, Haywire
Judi Dench, Skyfall
Anne Hathaway, The Dark Knight Rises
Jennifer Lawrence, The Hunger Games

I bet this awards show still clocks in under the Oscars.

Judi or Blunt, on performance alone. But something tells me this category isn’t about performance…

Best Comedy
Bernie
Silver Linings Playbook
Ted
This Is 40
21 Jump Street

This is why the Oscars don’t have a comedy category. It’s unfair. Is Silver Linings really a comedy? Can you be nominated for Best Picture and Best Comedy? There’s too much murkiness in the logic, there, and would too often lead to a film bullying the ones in the Comedy category or a comedy ending up in the Comedy category and nowhere else, kind of like how Pixar and Disney always got the Animated Film nomination but not the Best Picture nomination.

Best Actor in a Comedy
Jack Black, Bernie
Bradley Cooper, Silver Linings Playbook
Paul Rudd, This Is 40
Channing Tatum, 21 Jump Street
Mark Wahlberg, Ted

Wahlberg. Cooper shouldn’t be here. He’s bullying everyone else.

Best Actress in a Comedy
Mila Kunis, Ted
Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
Shirley MacLaine, Bernie
Leslie Mann, This Is 40
Rebel Wilson, Pitch Perfect

Again, with the bullying. (Also, Leslie Mann all the way.)

Best Sci-Fi/Horror Movie
Cabin in the Woods
Looper
Prometheus

Oh, for Christ’s sake.

Best Foreign Language Film
Amour
The Intouchables
A Royal Affair
Rust and Bone

Seems like this is 3/5 of your Oscar category. (Remember, Rust and Bone isn’t eligible.)

Best Documentary Feature
Bully
The Imposter
Queen of Versailles
Searching for Sugar Man
The Central Park Five
West of Memphis

If I remember correctly, a lot of these popped up on the Documentary shortlist. So that’ll be helpful, probably.

Best Original Song
“For You,” Act of Valor (performed by Keith Urban)
“Skyfall,” Skyfall (performed by Adele)
“Still Alive,” from Paul Williams Still Alive (performed by Paul Williams)
“Suddenly,” from Les Miserables (performed by Hugh Jackman)
“Learn Me Right,” Brave (performed by Birdy with Mumford & Sons)

Am I really gonna be able to call it “Academy Award nominee Act of Valor“?

Best Original Score
Argo, Alexandre Desplat
Life of Pi, Mychael Danna
Lincoln, John Williams
The Master, Jonny Greenwood
Moonrise Kingdom, Alexandre Desplat

Oh, good one to end on. Reminds me that I still need to listen to the scores. Expect a full scores breakdown come January.

– – – – –

So those are the BFCA nominations. To me, they’re incredibly helpful, and they tend to nominate the stuff that the Oscars don’t, that most of us, on our own lists, went, “I’d totally nominate that.” And they tend to have the same quirky tastes as I do (like Nothing But the Truth), so I’m a huge fan of them. I like when I like someone else’s taste and they help with the Oscars. You don’t get that too often.

The BFCA Awards will be given out on January 10th.

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One response

  1. BlueFox94

    Great analysis of the BFCA, mate! This article made my day 8D

    I was really hoping that Owl City’s song for “WRECK-IT RALPH” would gain momentum for Best Original Song. “When Can I See You Again” is one of my guilty pleasure film songs of the year. Imagine how the Academy would put on a performance like that!! (If they are still having songs performed of course…)

    December 15, 2012 at 2:24 pm

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